NPR's Juana Summers talks with Royal Ramey, the co-founder and CEO of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program, about the pathway for formerly incarcerated firefighters to build careers in the field.

But that kind of thing kind of, you know, thrilled me,” says Royal Ramey, the co-founder and CEO of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program, a nonprofit based in California that helps formerly ...

But that kind of thing kind of, you know, thrilled me,” says Royal Ramey, the co-founder and CEO of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program, a nonprofit based in California that helps formerly ...

Royal Ramey (left) and Brandon Smith are co-founders of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program, which provides training and job connections for people who worked in California prison fire camps.

"It's to help them stop having dead-end jobs and start putting them on a career pathway in wildland fire, forestry and the timber industry," Program Coordinator Anthony Misner said. Misner says ...

Just ask Royal Ramey. He's the co-founder and CEO of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program. That's a nonprofit based in California that helps formerly incarcerated firefighters find employment.