Matt: For me — I'll take you to task over this —the number one dad show is Yellowstone.It's got all these things in it that are tenants of [Dad TV]. It's got old school ethics, that's a big one ...

Dad TV isn’t big awards bait — as we saw a few years ago when “Yellowstone” suddenly hit it big, and we expected the kudos to follow. They didn’t. But that’s OK.