Probe yourself and say, “I don’t need to pay attention to that ... I think that message of putting well-being first is the perfect final thought. Thank you so much for your time today. Listeners, look ...

You won't have that energy spike and energy crash from it, and you'll be able to pay attention much more deeply ... not against us. Thanks to Shannon and Ray Green for editing this episode.

What you pay attention to is your life ... Author Johann Hari, thank you so much for joining us. HARI: What a pleasure. Thanks for great questions. Thanks so much, Hari. I appreciate it.